Why Your Car Sucks: Nissan GT-R

"Sweet Trav" (thespunbearing) 09/22/2014 at 10:00 • Filed to: Why Your Car Sucks

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Some people are fans of the Nissan GT-R. But many, many more people are NOT fans of the Nissan GT-R. This 2014 tongue-in-cheek car "review" is for those in the latter group.

This is part of an ongoing series of articles I will be writing using the formula laid out by Drew Magary on Deadspin.

Your Car: 2015 Nissan GT-R

Your 2015 Model Year Vital Stats : 545 Horsepower. 6-Speed Dual Clutch Flappy Paddle Transmission with Launch Control.* ATTESA E-TS, which sounds like a built in cappuccino maker, but is actually the name of the AWD system. The much more conventionally named Bilstein Damptronic suspension ensures a damp(end) driving experience at all times. These are both marketing terms that could have only come from Japan and Germany, the former being entirely convoluted beyond all recognition and the later incredulously dull. Regardless of the verbiage, using launch control will get you from 0-60 in 3.2 seconds*

* be warned using launch control to replicate the statistics used to sell you this damned car also causes your warranty to explode. Nissan's lawyers are laughing, if you aren't.

Your Engine: Nissan VR38DETT 3.8l V6

Rather than build a true supercar engine like a V8 or V12 for the GT-R Nissan decided to use a special evolution of their venerable VQ series V6. Each engine is hand-built by the dullest worker bee that Nissan can find. How is this possible in the land of Giant Anime Robots and Kanban mass production? It seems like a betrayal of Bushido Code to admit that Japanese mass production quality standards are not up to the rigors of building a supercar engine. Having written this truth, I fully expect the Yakuza to "remove" me in the middle of the night on orders from the Bond villain running Nissan, Carlo Ghosn. Tipping the scales at nearly 600 lbs the VR38DETT weighs almost 70lbs more than the 630 horsepower GM LS9. Makes you wonder if they should have gone the distance for a bespoke supercar motor instead of fluffing up the V6 found in a Nissan Quest Minivan.

Your Aesthetics Recipe: In a shot glass mix equal parts Gundam Fighter, Nissan Altima Coupe, and Sony Playstation 3. In a separate pint glass fill the glass to the height of the shot glass with sake, add a couple of drops of fanboy blood for color. Garnish with a face only a mother could love. Hold the shot glass above the pint, then it's Ichi… Ni… San… GT-R bomb time.

What's new that sucks: Not much except the price tag. Each year the GT-R gets marginally better while price keeps climbing. What started as a $70,000 world-beating-bargain (so long as you didn't use the launch control) has turned into a marginally better, just as ugly $100,000 annual science experiment to wring .05% more out of the platform while increasing the price 10%

What has always sucked: It's a pig. The GT-R was born atop the ugly tree. It's immense weight broke the bough which supported it's nest and it hit every branch on the way down. The GTR is 300-700lbs heavier than its "true supercar" competitors. The Nissan design chief said that the the GTR was styled after a Gundam fighter to help reflect Japanese culture. Anime story arcs are less complex than this car is ugly.

What might not suck: In this world there are thousands of fanboys who fetishize sleek turbocharged Japanese coupes like the Mazda RX-7 and Toyota Supra much the same way that the rest of the world's men have fetishized thin, demure, Japanese women. The GT-R is then by comparison the nerdy, chubby half Japanese\half French women's studies/engineering major at the local college house party. Sure she might not fit society's bullshit concept of beauty, but if the fanboy elitists just had an open mind, they would have found a new standard, one not based on appearance, instead on performance, substance and intellect. A standard upon which to judge all women, and by way of this metaphor, supercars. The Nissan GT-R also comes standard with the ability to make damn near anyone look like Sebastian Vettel on race track because it's that easy to drive staggeringly fast.

Share your opinions in the Comment Section Below . Remember, This is all in good fun.

Travis - King of Spun Bearings is not a king, author, journalist or even a part-time fanfic writer. Instead he spends his days driving his classic Chevrolet across SE-Michigan and his quiet nights at home drinking cheap whiskey and listening to Otis Redding. Occasionally he has a valid idea or opinion which he feels must be shared on the internet.

 V8 Rustler > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 10:04

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No mention of lack of Manuèl Transmission option? The only reason why the GT-R sucks.

gordonbombay > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 10:09

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I greatly enjoy these reviews. Please continue doing them.

There's a good chance this will be the highlight of my Monday.

MrPseudonym > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 10:09

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Let's not forget the thing about the time they put a GT-R engine in a Juke. And then did it 20 more times.

Sweet Trav > MrPseudonym 09/22/2014 at 10:11

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The Juke-R is Insanity in its best form.

Leon711 >  V8 Rustler 09/22/2014 at 10:15

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no estoy manuél.

AMGtech - now with more recalls! > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 10:25

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Excellent. I hate these andwanted to do a review like this but now I don't have to. But my writing for stuff like this lacks... prolific-ness. Point made? I think so.

Only other things I would have mentioned are the laughable ergonomics and how it is the worst car north of $30k to spend any amount of time inside of unless you are on a race track (even still you might fall asleep).

Maximum_Odyssey >  V8 Rustler 09/22/2014 at 10:43

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"Another glaring reason why the GT-R sucks."

There, fixed it for you.

MrPseudonym > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 11:30

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The best form: PURE, TRIED AND TRUE INSANITY.

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 11:31

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Great article, glad I got to read the whole thing this time.

Keep them coming. May I recommend the new Mustang for your next article?

Sweet Trav > MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner 09/22/2014 at 11:32

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I'm thinking something a little more European is in order...

MontegoMan562 is a Capri RS Owner > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 11:43

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I'll be waiting on the edge of my original bench seat.

I might have to have you come down to my place to help me do those valve seals on the Montego.

bob and john > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 12:20

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IIRC, they honor the warrenties even if you use the LC now. I know they didnt do it for the first couple of years, but i think they got their poop in a group now.

Just Pelé > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 13:28

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vs Z06, there's no comparison. The GTR gets crushed.

450X_FTW > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 13:28

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What always surprised me about the GT-R, was that one it's a Nissan, never saw a car like this coming, at least not since the cancellation of the Skyline. Second, just on looks it's not as loud or aggressive and crazy looking as say a Ferrari or Lambo, it's borderline sleeper based on styling.

Titan-E34 > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 13:28

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it isn't a pig. its just not. are you just saying that because of its size and weight? Because it makes due rather handedly...

Crest > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 13:28

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This is your best review to date…….even though it's only your second. I love it! Your why it sucks lacks the fact that that it's missing a third pedal and something you move around that might have helped kill off the boring part of the GTR. Next up, please do the Genesis Coupe! I'll love to hear what you have to say about it

El-Verde > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 13:29

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This is an awesome idea for an article.

Next car you should do: Porsche 911

I just bought one, and I now know SOOO many different ways they suck. Let me know if I can help!

Humpty-D > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 13:29

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I really liked the GTR until I drove one. It's like the ginger of cars.

mcbenz >  V8 Rustler 09/22/2014 at 13:30

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and no RWD road version for pure hoonage.

guppysb > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 13:32

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I thought Nissan reverted the warranty fine print for launch control. Launch control is covered as part of the warranty now I believe, please correct me if I am wrong. http://www.exoticsandluxury.com/warranty-voide…

TheCrudMan > MrPseudonym 09/22/2014 at 13:33

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Pretty much the most awesome car on the planet.

seansss > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 13:34

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Drove a 2014. Hated it. It just continuously clunks all the time. Terrible.

Neutral President > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 13:34

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ZHP Sparky, the 5th >  V8 Rustler 09/22/2014 at 13:35

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I'd love to try that shift pattern sometime. Or just do the usual pattern through these gears...1st to 4 almost bogging the engine, then back down to 2 BROOOMMMMMMM! and up to 5th for a perfect stall.

JayDeZ > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 13:36

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* be warned using launch control to replicate the statistics used to sell you this damned car also causes your warranty to explode. Nissan's lawyers are laughing, if you aren't.

This is the #1 reason why your car sucks. Why would there be a factory feature that you are forbidden from using?

RMudkips >  V8 Rustler 09/22/2014 at 13:37

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Considering its technology, I think it's a little fitting for the car.

Chairman Kaga > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 13:38

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Because the GTR is the exclusive domain of guys like this. Dude. Bro. Dude. I know.

JuiceyM6 > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 13:40

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well one of many... im a diehard R34 fanboy, always have been always will be, hope to get one sometime before i leave this world... that being said this article is awesome and spot on, only point you did miss was mentioned by Travis, how could they make this animal and not put a true manual in it!!?? as ugly as it is, as heavy as it is, as heavy as it is, it could all be overlooked if it had a 6spd

Where's my roll bar? > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 13:40

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What a fucking insult to the engineers and craftsmen who build this car. Fuck you snarky gen x faggot! Why don't you go make a car?

SnowBallin > El-Verde 09/22/2014 at 13:40

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please elaborate. I only hear great things about the 911. I'm considering buying one in the next few years and would love to hear real world feedback

Tomas Hancar > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 13:42

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Sorry, still not sold, GT-R is the ultimate poser's toy...

drdude >  V8 Rustler 09/22/2014 at 13:44

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on a more serious thought process... if you were to put a manual in it, you would explode the rear end... if not the manual trans itself.. Just like the automatic does... so then you're looking at an even beefier manual, and the damn weight of the car goes up another 300lbs, just so we can side step the clutch without breaking shit.

Maxaxle > Leon711 09/22/2014 at 13:45

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*No soy Manuél.

Mercedes Streeter > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 13:46

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The smart fortwo!!! I promise not to cry! And I can provide any technical corrections if any are made. :)

seansss > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 13:46

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>V6

>Crossover

>automatic

>4wd

No thanks.

Upshift > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 13:48

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Omg! I haven't read this yet but I had to tell you I love you for making a jalop version of deadspins "why your team sucks" and I really want this to be a regular thing.

Saracen > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 13:49

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Sweet Trav > Mercedes Streeter 09/22/2014 at 13:49

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I already know what I'm doing next.... Think twelve cylinders and Eva Green...

I'll add the smart car to my list though.

La Mia Ferrari >  V8 Rustler 09/22/2014 at 13:51

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When even the storied houses of Ferrari and Porsche are evicting Manuel from their premises, it makes the GT-R seem like the avant-guarde of discrimination.

Sweet Trav > Upshift 09/22/2014 at 13:51

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Every Monday at 10am EST until I run out of cars to have opinions about.

Nitecrawlah2 > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 13:51

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Love the car for what it is, hate the price for what else you can get.

Damasconian > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 13:53

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If a mid-90's Supra isn't next on this list, you're dead to me.

rfield91 > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 13:53

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I was a GTR hater; until yesterday. I am occasionally an instructor at a few local autocross clubs, and someone gave me the keys to their 2015 GTR. It only took one 79 second run to make me reconsider every opinion I had about the car. "It's all computers. The thing drives itself! It's boring!" Blah, blah, blah. I'm an idiot.

That is a challenging car to drive. It will spin all four tires pretty much on command. It will get sideways whenever you want it to. It will stop like you just hit a brick wall. When I got in, I tossed my hat in the backseat. The first time I tapped the brakes it went flying into the windshield.

10/10 would drive again.

In a Mini; let them mock me as My Mini Countryman is higher than you > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 13:54

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BRO DO YOU EVEN LAP TIME?!! GTR NISMO WRECKS YOUR CORVETTE AND SHITS IN FERRARIS CORN FLAKES EVERY DAY ON THE NORDESCLEIFE. THE GTR IS SO CASH IT MAKES RICK ROSS CRY.

/s end of GTR fanboying.

The GTR isn't made for car enthusiasts like you or most of Jalopnik. It's made for kids born from 1991-1999 cream themselves. It's a numbers machine. It is Optimus Prime in car form. Also it eats Lambos for breakfast.

Official 2015 GTR Track Pack 0-60 time: 2.9 seconds.

Doctor-G-and-the-wagen > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 13:54

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Modeled after a Gundam fighter, you say? This could only happen WITH THE HELP OF KYOJIIII!!!!!!

Rage of ManBearPig > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 13:54

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The only reason the GTR sucks, is that THIS was so much better:

Mr Clutch > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 13:56

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I get beat up for this all the time but here goes.

They changed the name from Skyline to GT-R why I don't know, call a GT-R a Skyline and fan boys will crucify you faster than Jesus showing up to a bar mitzvah uninvited.

Maintenance cost is right up there with the likes of Ferrari, Porsche and Lamborghini. For a car that was considered the working mans super car it feels more like you must be a CEO to own this car.

Why do I have to spend 150K for a Nissimo GT-R.

If I am spending 150K on a car why does it have to share the same engine as a Nissan Quest I want a bespoke engine at least.

Lastly why are my posts pending what kind of bullshit is this. Before all this craziness my posts were not pending. Let me know which animal to sacrifice or which penis I have to stroke for this to go away. Seriously why am I getting punished.

Quasistellar > MrPseudonym 09/22/2014 at 13:56

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This car is ridiculous and stupid and pointless.

I love it.

PatBateman > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 13:58

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Travis, IRL:

Sweet Trav > Damasconian 09/22/2014 at 13:58

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We're heading to blighty for our next one. Don't worry, all cars will get their turn in time.

Plantonation > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 13:58

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Travis,

I hereby challenge you to do the most impossible why your car sucks review ever. You will review all 4 generations of Miata and why they all suck.
If you do not complete the challenge you owe me $1,000,000,000,000.

If you complete the challenge........whoopty do.

Mercedes Streeter > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 13:58

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I eagerly await both!!!! I'm loving this series!

FRSFTW-ActuallyboughtaFocusST > Doctor-G-and-the-wagen 09/22/2014 at 13:59

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Damnit if I ever drive a GT-R now I will feel obliged to yell BURNING FINNNGGGEEEERRRRR every time I stomp the loud pedal.

colorfulyawn > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 13:59

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Ah, the GT-R. It's a car I admire mightily. But I feel no compulsion to ever own one myself. I like 'em, but they're not my style.

iwlar > El-Verde 09/22/2014 at 14:01

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yes, please detail why they suck

Malforus > Quasistellar 09/22/2014 at 14:02

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The car that screams "YOU CAN'T BUY CLASS, BUT YOU CAN OUTRUN IT."

Dest > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 14:02

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"* be warned using launch control to replicate the statistics used to sell you this damned car also causes your warranty to explode. Nissan's lawyers are laughing, if you aren't."

Not true.

Sweet Trav > PatBateman 09/22/2014 at 14:05

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This is a bit closer.

iwlar > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 14:05

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The GTR isn't ugly. Its a nice looking car, its not sleek, but its decent looking. But its not a car I would buy. For the money, I'd get an F Type Coupe R

El-Verde > iwlar 09/22/2014 at 14:05

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Best car I've ever driven.

Totally sucks in lots and lots of ways.

Ratchet when he's all hopped up on synthetic energon > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 14:07

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"sleek turbocharged Japanese coupes like the... Toyota Supra" Last I checked, Turbo Supras were pretty far to the right on the scale of svelte vs porcine (aka the "Caterham<—->OP's mom" scale).

Upshift > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 14:08

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Awesome. I'll even take posts saying my own cars suck just for the entertainment. Can't wait until next Monday! Also I just read the post. "Anime story arcs are less complexe than this car is ugly". I'm trying not to cry from laughter. Gold, pure gold.

pedal-force > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 14:08

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Having driven one, on a track, I agree with everything. It's heavy and feels like it. It handles like it is glued to the ground, somehow, with magic wizardry or gnomes in the tires pushing real hard, or something, I'm not sure.

It goes like stink, will beat almost anything you can actually afford, but it's just not cool. It's ugly, heavy, the interior feels like you'd expect an expensive Nissan to, it's just kind of dead.

All that said, if I had to spend $100k on a car, this might be it. Although, they're basically giving Vipers away these days. And the new Z06 is coming. Although, everyone and their brother owns a Corvette. Hell, I'd probably get a used Ferrari with a gated shifter.

PatBateman > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 14:08

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Touché!

iwlar > El-Verde 09/22/2014 at 14:10

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what are some examples? I've read that the Cayman/Cayman S is the better vehicle to purchase anyway.

T off the New >  V8 Rustler 09/22/2014 at 14:10

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Interesting shift pattern...

Zohaibman72 > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 14:11

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I'd say the GTR is probably my favourite car, maybe second to the R32, but I did enjoy the article.

One thing though, I don't see why people think its so ugly, because it doesn't look like a ferrari, or sleek, or anything? I love it's looks. It looks unique. I very rarely ever like supercars because they all have a similar shape and tend to get played out by celeberties or dude bros with lambo posters on their walls, I like the GTR because it doesn't look like a Ferrari, Audi R8 (which I think is incredibly boring design-wise), A Lambo. It looks more like a coupe of a sedan.

I wish it came in manual though, but I wouldn't say this car isn't Jalop. Atleast Nissan bothered making a car for the track, in 2008 when the GTR arrived, Toyota didnt have a track car really, neither did most other Japanese brands. Honda still doesn't (NSX doesn't count, its like the Half-Life 3 of cars).

Rafter777 > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 14:14

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There are only 3 crucial and essential things why the GTR sucks:

1. UGLY AS FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (!!!!!)

2. It doesn't need a driver, everything is automatic, computer-controlled bullshit for drivers who can't drive. Grandma's car

3.No manual gearbox. A CAR WITH AN AUTOMATIC transmission just isn't a PROPER DRIVERS CAR, PERIOD.

WhatWouldTammyDo? > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 14:15

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You're a poor man's Drew Magary!

Illegal Machine > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 14:15

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Should have mentioned that the car has a TERRIBLE ride, and has mind numbing drone from the exhaust.

Drone is what you expect from a "custom" exhaust shop exhaust where they cut out your resonators and cats and replace with some off brand super 44 Flowmasters, NOT from a 100K car.

Onlyuselowbeams > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 14:16

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Love it. Would read again.....One thing though cobb tune, downpipe, y-pipe = boom 660hp supercar.

scoob > Zohaibman72 09/22/2014 at 14:16

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Lol I like that HL3 comparison.

Anyway, this must be done now: HL3 CONFIRMED!

oz4 > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 14:17

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Please be the BMW M3.

stevethecurse > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 14:19

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"Rather than build a true supercar engine like a V8 or V12 for the GT-R Nissan decided to use a special evolution of their venerable VQ series V6."

Didn't the Jaguar XJ220 have a twin turbo V6? I'm pretty sure that's a true supercar.

Sweet Trav > WhatWouldTammyDo? 09/22/2014 at 14:21

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Poor being the operative word.

Sweet Trav > stevethecurse 09/22/2014 at 14:26

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However, the XJ220 weighed 600 pounds less than the GTR and only made 5hp less out of a 3.5l. It did all this when George H. W. Bush was still in office.

Sweet Trav > oz4 09/22/2014 at 14:27

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Think Anarchy in the UK...

TVR > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 14:28

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Try all Audis ever, except the first quattro

GhostZ > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 14:30

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Makes you wonder if they should have gone the distance for a bespoke supercar motor instead of fluffing up the V6 found in a Nissan Quest Minivan.

I dare you to find a new V12 that can make 1000HP from only intake, exhaust and ECU modifications:

Alpha 90mm Downpipes

Alpha 90mm Mid-pipe

HKS Legamax Exhaust System (Akrapovic or other AMS spec also available)

Alpha 9 Billet Wheel Upgraded Turbochargers

Alpha Spec Wastegate Actuators

Alpha Front Mount Intercooler Upgrade

Alpha Induction Kit with Tial Q Blow-off Valves

Cobb AccessPORT Tuning System

Alpha Fuel System Upgrade

Alpha Calibration Map(s) (Alpha 3.8L Race Engine required for race gas map)

Alpha Spec Upgraded Fuel Injector

http://alphaperformance.com/packages/r35-g…

In other words, for the price of a new Miata you can add 4 Miata worth of power to your GTR. And let's not get into the 1800HP versions of this thing.

Local Miata Bro > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 14:33

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I love these, never stop doing them

oz4 > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 14:35

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So, Aston Martin?

Nhat-Viet Phi > bob and john 09/22/2014 at 14:35

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Most people agree it's better if one's stool is formed.

meatatarian > GhostZ 09/22/2014 at 14:41

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New turbos and fuel system=/= " only intake, exhaust and ECU "

And frankly my dear, I don't give a damn. Numbers aren't impressive. This thing has the aesthetic value of a cinderblock. If I wanted to chase numbers I'd much rather tune a 997 Turbo for similar overall price

Dusty Ventures > Crest 09/22/2014 at 14:41

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It's his third

steino > ZHP Sparky, the 5th 09/22/2014 at 14:43

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It's like that because it's also a racist joke saying that Mexicans can't count, and/or bean counters or something. Maybe.

RX > pedal-force 09/22/2014 at 14:44

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Gated shifter FTW.

RX > bob and john 09/22/2014 at 14:44

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poop in a group. Been laughing about that for the last 5 min.

Nhat-Viet Phi >  V8 Rustler 09/22/2014 at 14:45

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(Off-Topic: $%&*#! Is anyone else having trouble attaching images or even pasting DropBox image links?)

bob and john > RX 09/22/2014 at 14:46

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I got from an episode of roadkill :P Killed me the first time too

Izaerian > stevethecurse 09/22/2014 at 14:49

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Funny you would use that car as comparison. Yes it did end up with a turbo v6, but the car was designed from the beginning to house a beautiful Jag v12. Last minute changes resulted in the v6 engine being used to MUCH disgust (i.e. Lawsuits). The majority of the deposited pre-orders chose to not even use their purchase option because without the v12 the car lost much of it's soul. Which is partly why it sold so poorly. By many people's standards that change took away the "true" supercar moniker at the time. It's still a sexy beast either way.

GhostZ > meatatarian 09/22/2014 at 14:51

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They don't replace the turbos, just the turbine wheel with a Billet one. And yes, turbos are part of the intake.

Their 997 package actually does include completely new turbos, and for some strange reason doesn't go up to 1800HP despite the years of development that company has been putting into the 997.

My point is that there's something to be said about extreme over-engineering that puts the engine in a class above most supercar engines. The Ford GT and Dodge Viper are both great examples of that. Just because you don't like the cars, doesn't mean you can't respect the engineering accomplishment.

You could argue it's a shame that such a good engine is in such a "heavy, ugly" car too.

My Alfa 164 is Too a Real Alfa > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 14:53

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It doesn't suck because the VR38 is a testament to Japanese, overbuilt, perfection. It's akin to the old RB engines and 2JZ, ridiculously overbuilt and thoroughly engineered to make good, reliable power.

malcolm33 > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 14:59

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It doesn't suck for this reason, but the main reason why this car is quick on a track is it has a full underbody and diffuser. It's good, but it makes comparing other cars to it on a track somewhat pointless.

Road and Track had Rod Millen test it alongside a Corvette and a 911. In the slow corners they were all even; in the fast corners (above 80 mph) the GT-R was 10+ mph faster. Why? Downforce. Tack a decent wing and splitter on the others and the GT-R would be left behind.

El-Verde > iwlar 09/22/2014 at 14:59

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Nope. The Cayman/Cayman S just screams "I couldn't afford a 911", said every 911 owner ever.

The Cayman is an awesome car but it lacks the excitement of the 911. It's probably the "better" chassis but nowhere near as fun or unique of an experience.

I hate to spoil a future article but, a couple of reasons the 911 sucks:

-Nobody thinks it's cool. Seriously. Everyone just thinks you're a 50 year old dentist with a trophy wife. My wife even started calling me a douche when I started driving it. Doug complains about his Ferrari....he should seriously see how depressing it is to drive around a 911.

-It has a backseat. For no reason. Nobody would every want to be in that backseat

ZeeeeCar > Zohaibman72 09/22/2014 at 14:59

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People think the GT-R is ugly because they can see what it looks like.

ZeeeeCar > Zohaibman72 09/22/2014 at 15:00

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I'm 100% with you on the R8.

Sweet Trav > My Alfa 164 is Too a Real Alfa 09/22/2014 at 15:07

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If the VR38DETT is a testament to Japanese, overbuilt, perfection, then the Early AWD boxes used that were puking when the GT-R was used like a race car is a testament to Japanese command structure, obsession with technical specs instead of real world results and complete denial when something fails.

ColonialSaab > pedal-force 09/22/2014 at 15:08

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GIVE ME MY VIPER ALREADY. I WANT IT IN RED.

move-over-peasant-I-have-an-M5-in-the-shop > Sweet Trav 09/22/2014 at 15:09

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You forgot the fact that it's stiiiiiiill a Nissan.

jf4242 > Maximum_Odyssey 09/22/2014 at 15:10

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I like the looks of the GT-R ...it does not look good in photos, but in person, the proportions are very good. ...also, I would hazard to say that most who do not like one has not driven one. I am a fan of lightweight cars (and race a couple of different sub 1500lb cars and sub 2000lb cars) ...but the GT-R is great fun to drive. It does not feel heavy and reponds well...also very controllable for such a fast car. Still an amazing value for what you get.